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so far we heard assad evil, rebels good. now things look much more complicated and more civilians end up dieing from this violence that keeps going back and forth. bill: what are the reports of those killed since this war started? >> reporter: you are talking north of 20,000 people, bill. not only do you have the people killed. you have the civilians and four or five,000 syrian soldiers and syrian rebels killed. but hundreds of thousands of refugees, people who left their homes with only the clothes on their back in turkey. we are now approaching winter up on the northern border of syria. it is going to get very, very tough for these syrian refugees who are now in these tents as winter sets in. we are talking about temperatures now in the 20s. and also snow in the northern mountains in syria. bill: thank you, leland. leland vittert live in jerusalem. jamie: president obama and governor mitt romney are set to square off in their first face-to-face debate. megyn kelly will join us live with new polling. bill: there is a manhun
so far we heard assad evil, rebels good. now things look much more complicated and more civilians end up dieing from this violence that keeps going back and forth. bill: what are the reports of those killed since this war started? >> reporter: you are talking north of 20,000 people, bill. not only do you have the people killed. you have the civilians and four or five,000 syrian soldiers and syrian rebels killed. but hundreds of thousands of refugees, people who left their homes with only...
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assad has got a reconciliation program, but it's essentially a -- to shell them into submission. the rebels aren't going to submit, and it's a population caught in the middle, and the battle will be fought around them, and it's going to land on their homes, and they're the ones who are going to suffer. this is what we're going to see. the casualty toll is gradually going up every day, every week, and without a dialogue, that's the scenario, and it will get worse, and it will spill over and affect the region more greatly, and it will raise tensions and ultimately without a negotiated solution there will be a serious power vacuum and a lot of infighting. >> nick, i applaud your journalism and your courage, and i certainly wish you the best and safety in your assignment. thank you, nick. good to see you. >>> four americans died, now all signs point to a group lirnked al qaeda being responsible, so what could the military have done to stop the attack in libya? we get a live report. and two pills. afternoon's overhaul starts with more pain. more pills. triple checking hydraulics. the
assad has got a reconciliation program, but it's essentially a -- to shell them into submission. the rebels aren't going to submit, and it's a population caught in the middle, and the battle will be fought around them, and it's going to land on their homes, and they're the ones who are going to suffer. this is what we're going to see. the casualty toll is gradually going up every day, every week, and without a dialogue, that's the scenario, and it will get worse, and it will spill over and...
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what's assad's response going to be to that? i don't see him pulling back. >> whose call would that have been to retaliate? >> that would come from the prime minister. the prime minister's got a lot of political baggage tied up in syria right now. a lot of people in turkey don't like the way he's really come out against assad, that he's got so many refugees in his country. and he wants to win another election. and he's got to come out tough on this one. >> talking to ivan watsson, he said the last thing turkey wants is to get dragged into a war. >> and look it's happening. this is what we're seeing right now. how far will it go depends on the amount of shelling. >> and five people were killed in turkey, correct? >> that's what we understand. a woman and several children. >> okay. so as we continue to watch, we'll watch reaction from nato also i presume. >> tur ks are turning to nato to. i don't think we can expect to see them sending tanks from europe or from the united states
what's assad's response going to be to that? i don't see him pulling back. >> whose call would that have been to retaliate? >> that would come from the prime minister. the prime minister's got a lot of political baggage tied up in syria right now. a lot of people in turkey don't like the way he's really come out against assad, that he's got so many refugees in his country. and he wants to win another election. and he's got to come out tough on this one. >> talking to ivan...
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you know it used to be assad evil, rebels good. now this makes things much more complicated enside syria and harder to end violence. back to you. gregg: leland vittert live in jerusalem. leland, thanks very much. >>> president obama, governor mitt romney getting in some last minute cramming before tonight's big debate in denver. just like college and high school, right? jenna: do you think it helps? gregg: i think it really does. have to get as much information in your brain as you can to spit it out tonight when you need it. one of them will win the election in november. what can we expect when they take the stage? there it is for their first showdown. we'll have a preview of the crucial debate coming up. >> reporter: rick folbaum in the "happening now" now control room. brand-new stories we are working on in the next 15 minutes. voters in florida may want to leave themselves extra time on election day. ballot proposals that could cause massive delays and confusion in one of the race's key states. brand-new information on the man
you know it used to be assad evil, rebels good. now this makes things much more complicated enside syria and harder to end violence. back to you. gregg: leland vittert live in jerusalem. leland, thanks very much. >>> president obama, governor mitt romney getting in some last minute cramming before tonight's big debate in denver. just like college and high school, right? jenna: do you think it helps? gregg: i think it really does. have to get as much information in your brain as you can...
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the civil war began as a popular uprising against the assad dictatorship which has ruled syria 42 years. one of the most experienced war correspondents covering the civil war in syria is our clarissa ward. she's recently returned from aleppo and joins us now at the broadcast center in new york. clarissa, what can you tell us about who might have been behind these bombings today? >> reporter: well, scott,o far no group has actually claimed responsibility for today's attacks, but there is no doubt that there is an increasing number of extremist groups operating on the ground in syria. they're using the same kind of terrorist tactics that we've seen in iraq and afghanistan and part of the reason for that is this influx of foreign fighters that we've seen into the country. our crew actually spent time in a safe house on the border of turkey that was filled with fighters who had come from northern africa, from other countries, and they said they had come to syria to fight jihad. >> pelley: this civil war which began about 18 months ago to overthrow the dictatorship was in those days all abou
the civil war began as a popular uprising against the assad dictatorship which has ruled syria 42 years. one of the most experienced war correspondents covering the civil war in syria is our clarissa ward. she's recently returned from aleppo and joins us now at the broadcast center in new york. clarissa, what can you tell us about who might have been behind these bombings today? >> reporter: well, scott,o far no group has actually claimed responsibility for today's attacks, but there is...
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we know who assad is. the united states says he should go. who's the opposition? you tell me. >> which is the same question we were asking in libya before gadhafi fell. >> so we're dealing here with a messy region which is increasingly slipping into increased instability, a region in which american domination is rapidly, rapidly coming to an end. we have to face that fact. and a region which on top of it is faced with a potential war. we have a prime minister of a country that has 200 nuclear weapons decides to attack preemptively iran, which may be building nuclear weapons. and then we become engaged, and then, of course, the world economy goes pot. and then forget all of these debates about medicare. >> it's always so much fun to have you in here. >> it is. so we don't know who the opposition is in syria. we didn't know who the opposition was in libya. let's talk about who the leader is in egypt. we're trying to get our arms around morsi, and he waited a little bit longer than the white house would have liked to condemn the attack on the u.s. embassy. what are y
we know who assad is. the united states says he should go. who's the opposition? you tell me. >> which is the same question we were asking in libya before gadhafi fell. >> so we're dealing here with a messy region which is increasingly slipping into increased instability, a region in which american domination is rapidly, rapidly coming to an end. we have to face that fact. and a region which on top of it is faced with a potential war. we have a prime minister of a country that has...